Hate the sin and love the sinner, muthafucka!

[cabenson]

Last week was an ugly week at the MH board and this discussion spawned my new icon. Thank you lostingeekdom for the icon and ultraviolet730 for the discussion. I am not sure why I always want to call you "ultraviolent" ;)

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[armature.livejournal.com]

That's a brilliant icon!

[ultraviolet730.livejournal.com]

What did I tell you about the work thing? You don't remember, because you've been on pain meds leave for too long, but responsible workers do not burst into hysterics on a regular basis without attracting attention!

Actually, thank lucifer my office is so low-key. I can peruse TWoP and howl at the MH boards at will. But I suppose I should try to keep the hysterics to a minimum.

I am not sure why I always want to call you "ultraviolent"
I can't imagine. Unless my calm, serene, rational demeanor hasn't fooled you at all and you can see right through that computer screen into my cold, dark heart...

[cabenson.livejournal.com]

Sorry! no I'm not

[theholyinnocent.livejournal.com]

It's weird, but I always want to call you "ultraviolent" too! Perhaps it is due to the passion with which you defend Stabler, or because you are a worshipper in the Church of Keller? I dunno.

[koffeejunkee.livejournal.com]

It's just way too damn tempting to sign up on that board (as some cool name like 'rugmuncher'or 'carpetlicker')and cause as much lesbian hell as I can. Just to see how long it takes me to get banned.
Just cuz I'm nuts doesn't mean I can't be witty.

[sing1118.livejournal.com]

I'm working on that. My avatar says "snarky lesbian pride" right now, because lostingeekdom urged me not to be incendiary, but I really want to change it to say "dyke bitch". Just because.

[koffeejunkee.livejournal.com]

Is yours the avatar with the rainbow? (I lurk on occasion) Cuz you crack me up. I say go for it with the dyke bitch, then I can at least smirk on occasion when I visit.
Cuz you know, it's all about me. heh.

[sing1118.livejournal.com]

Thanks!

Hee, I did start working on it a while ago. I will hopefully have it up tonight.

[stephbrandes.livejournal.com]

Oh that would be funny. I bet your post wouldn't be up 30 seconds before one of the mods asked you to take it down. Hmmm....I suppose you could use this little ditty http://www.guardster.com/cgi-bin/free.pl
and they won't be able to trace your IP.

[armature.livejournal.com]

Favorite bits.

This is not about racism or bigotry. This is about intolerance.
...Because intolerance has no part in racism and bigotry.

I didn't say "intolerance of homophobia", I said "intolerance of homophobes". The difference being that homophobia is an action, but a homophobe is a person. Be intolerant of the action, but don't be intolerant of the person. Same as what you would want for yourself.
I do NOT want people poo-pooing my thoughts and actions but embracing me "as a person". What is their left of you without what you think and do? Maybe it's just me.

If you don't like the words, express yourself in a way that doesn't bash the person you're disagreeing with.
If I have angry words about a rape, am I wrong to call him a "rapist", since that's not what he "did" but who is "is"? Am I wrong to bring up that he's a priest--who tarnished his office, abused and violated the trust of his parish, and mocked God as part of his crime, or is that too much "about the person"? Is it fair to mention he's a man? Or did that nothing to do with "what he did" and not "who he is"?

If, as she writes, all this is a matter of logic and manners, there is no difference between my example and hers. It would be different if there were a certain basic standard of behavior in all human beings; then I could see the "as a person" argument. There may be such a thing (I think there is.) Unfortunately, we cannot depend on all people not being bigots.

If you don't like the person, ignore them.
That's a brave, empowering strategy. Create such a state of denial that you don't even acknowledge there's a person who might "do" things to harm you.

I can already see that I'll be labeled a "gay hater" or "defender of the stupid". Oh well. Won't be the first time I get labeled for sticking up for folks that don't agree with the vocal majority.
Interesting. In my (lesbian, educated) experience, the vocal majority are both gay-hating and stupid. *shrug*

Had to.

[cabenson.livejournal.com]

That was an ugleeeeee day.

[aivilo-18.livejournal.com]

Damn it! Again! With the snorting of liquid out of my nose!

I'd better see that icon up at m.com at some point, dude. I fucking *love* it.

[cabenson.livejournal.com]

Isn't it great? I probably will upload it cause I feel naughty.

[lostingeekdom.livejournal.com]

Heh, I love inspiring icon posts.

I wasn't sure what image to use for the icon, so I googled 'anti-gay'. Quite an eye opener. And how scary is that. There were many choice hate messages, but this one beat them all in the simplicity and power of its all encompassing bigotry and hatred. I'd like Katrose to tell me exactly how we are supposed to be understanding and tolerant of this message. I thought God, any God, be it Hindu, Muslim or Christian, was supposed to be all about love.

Oh, and in other news, Cal has taken her pontificating to new heights. Check this out. Who appointed her as the PC watchdog of the world? One more rant from her, and I might just lose my temper enough to tell her to shut the fuck up.

[cabenson.livejournal.com]

Hate to break it to ya, but Cal is a dude (http://www.mariska.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=100158&highlight=#100158). I wonder if he is Robert's BF?

[lostingeekdom.livejournal.com]

Ugh, it was bad enough when I thought Cal was a girl. This takes it to whole new level of creepy ugliness. No idea if Cal and Rob are BFF's but wouldn't surprise. What an asshole.

[stephbrandes.livejournal.com]

Cal bugs the shit outta me but I can tolerate his rants more so than that Jellybean2 person. She thinks she is Mariska's personal defender She pm'd me regarding my JHF rant a few months back and I promptly told her to go fuck herself. I noticed that Katrose was encouraging her notsofunny posting today. Grrr....I really need to stay away from that board.

[icarus-abides.livejournal.com]

Heeheehee. Everything on that board just make me laugh. Like seriously yo.

Because (with the exception of about a notable 3%) those people are all. such. morons.

It's like arguing with a retarded dog. In the end, you can walk away but they'll have nothing better to do that lick their balls and eat their own shit.

Somehow, I feel that analogy worked better in my head...

I should just make a 'Blow Me' memorandum to the whole lot of em.

[stephbrandes.livejournal.com]

The sad thing is, if Mariska said smoking crack was kewl, all those tweeners would be raiding mama's pocketbook to pay for their habit. Very little independent thinking going on there. If Mariska says she likes ants...they all like ants. If Mariska said she likes to tea bag Peter....well okay...they might not know what that means, but I bet they would google it and find out. Then we have hundreds of tweeners running around with balls in their mouths....hey at least they wouldn't be online!!! Could be a good thing.